{"id":1781,"date":"2015-05-09T13:24:22","date_gmt":"2015-05-09T11:24:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.eternalwinter.org\/blog\/?p=1781"},"modified":"2018-01-06T14:33:19","modified_gmt":"2018-01-06T12:33:19","slug":"why-i-dont-like-chest-joints","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dimensiondolls.com\/colourless\/reference\/why-i-dont-like-chest-joints\/","title":{"rendered":"Why I don&#8217;t like chest joints"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ll eventually do a proper review of the Vito body&#8217;s posing, but for now I&#8217;m addressing the only major problem that I have with it. The chest joint. Otherwise this body is such a dream, it has the awesome, awesome double joints at the elbows and knees and his arms and legs have a great range of movement in general. His wrists are also very poseable and his ankles, too, but he&#8217;s still stable. My Soulkid NL body is a complete idiot with the hidden joints, his legs are even broken at the back of his knees because there&#8217;s too much strain on the hidden joints&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>So, for starters I decided to take some reference photos of the chest joint, which hopefully help to explain why I&#8217;m not a fan of this trend and can only hope it dies soon. I&#8217;m all for natural posing, and chest joints are far from the natural movement of the human body.<\/p>\n<p>Don&#8217;t mind the difference between Hisoka&#8217;s head and body, he&#8217;s got a normal skin head on a white skin body. The difference isn&#8217;t noticeable when he&#8217;s wigged and clothed, but this way it&#8217;s more obvious.<\/p>\n<figure style=\"width: 800px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/eternalwinter.org\/doll\/comparisons\/vito_nl_chestjoint001.jpg\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" border=\"1\" class \/><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">First we have Soulkid NL boy and Vito double jointed guy in their default positions.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure style=\"width: 800px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/eternalwinter.org\/doll\/comparisons\/vito_nl_chestjoint002.jpg\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" border=\"1\" class \/><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">And from the side.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure style=\"width: 800px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/eternalwinter.org\/doll\/comparisons\/vito_nl_chestjoint003.jpg\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" border=\"1\" class \/><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Then let&#8217;s get to bending these dudes. The NL body has a rounder and softer shape, so it doesn&#8217;t look too bad &#8211; and it actually bends more thanks to this as well. The Vito is all sorts of ridiculous, I don&#8217;t know who thought that this was a good idea on any level.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure style=\"width: 800px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/eternalwinter.org\/doll\/comparisons\/vito_nl_chestjoint004.jpg\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" border=\"1\" class \/><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Nice gaping hole in the back for the Vito!  And such sharp edges, ugh&#8230;<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure style=\"width: 800px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/eternalwinter.org\/doll\/comparisons\/vito_nl_chestjoint005.jpg\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" border=\"1\" class \/><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">But percisely because the NL body has soft and round shapes, it tends to pull this kind of crap. Not fun. Vito can at least stay effortlessly in place, so&#8230; yay?<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure style=\"width: 800px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/eternalwinter.org\/doll\/comparisons\/vito_nl_chestjoint006.jpg\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" border=\"1\" class \/><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">But not to worry, Vito can bend to the side too, and manages to look even more broken!<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure style=\"width: 800px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/eternalwinter.org\/doll\/comparisons\/vito_nl_chestjoint007.jpg\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" border=\"1\" class \/><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">With the NL boy it&#8217;s easier to hide the broken-ness of the torso.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure style=\"width: 800px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/eternalwinter.org\/doll\/comparisons\/vito_nl_chestjoint008.jpg\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" border=\"1\" class \/><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Vito&#8217;s legs are more stable, so he can lean his lower torso backwards  better than the NL boy. But the upper part of the Vito torso really doesn&#8217;t bend forward much.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure style=\"width: 800px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/eternalwinter.org\/doll\/comparisons\/vito_nl_chestjoint009.jpg\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" border=\"1\" class \/><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">I sincerely doubt anyone can honestly say that this looks attractive in any way.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>&#8230; yeap. I&#8217;m thankful that I no longer have a single female doll with a chest joint, &#8217;cause things get even more difficult and ridiculous with boobs. x__x These two are my only idiots currently. But yeah, I&#8217;ll do a proper review about the Vito body&#8217;s posing later&#8230; I have lots of sewing work to do so I don&#8217;t have the time for now, next week is gonna be busy with IRL stuff.<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>EDIT:<\/strong> Look what this idiot did when I was posing him with his wife:<\/p>\n<figure style=\"width: 800px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/eternalwinter.org\/doll\/comparisons\/vito_nl_chestjoint010.jpg\" width=\"533\" height=\"800\" border=\"1\" class \/><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">&#8220;Hjalp I broken&#8221;<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure style=\"width: 800px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/eternalwinter.org\/doll\/comparisons\/vito_nl_chestjoint011.jpg\" width=\"533\" height=\"800\" border=\"1\" class \/><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">&#8230; *sigh*<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ll eventually do a proper review of the Vito body&#8217;s posing, but for now I&#8217;m addressing the only major problem that I have with it. The chest joint. Otherwise this body is such a dream, it has the awesome, awesome double joints at the elbows and knees and his arms and legs have a great range of movement in general. His wrists are also very poseable and his ankles, too, but he&#8217;s still stable. My Soulkid NL body is a complete idiot with the hidden joints, his legs are even broken at the back of his knees because there&#8217;s too much strain on the hidden joints&#8230; So, for starters I decided to take some reference photos of the chest joint, which hopefully help to explain why I&#8217;m not a fan of this trend and can only hope it dies soon. I&#8217;m all for natural posing, and chest joints are far from the natural movement of the human body. Don&#8217;t mind the difference between Hisoka&#8217;s head and body, he&#8217;s got a normal skin head on a white skin body. The difference isn&#8217;t noticeable when he&#8217;s wigged and clothed, but this way it&#8217;s more obvious. &#8230; yeap. I&#8217;m thankful that I no longer have a single female doll with a chest joint, &#8217;cause things get even more difficult and ridiculous with boobs. x__x These two are my only idiots currently. But yeah, I&#8217;ll do a proper review about the Vito body&#8217;s posing later&#8230; I have lots of sewing work to do so I don&#8217;t have the time for now, next week is gonna be busy with IRL stuff. &nbsp; EDIT: Look what this idiot did when I was posing him with his wife:<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1782,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[156,15],"tags":[216,98],"class_list":["post-1781","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-bjd","category-reference","tag-review","tag-souldoll"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/dimensiondolls.com\/colourless\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1781"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/dimensiondolls.com\/colourless\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/dimensiondolls.com\/colourless\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dimensiondolls.com\/colourless\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dimensiondolls.com\/colourless\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1781"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/dimensiondolls.com\/colourless\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1781\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1788,"href":"https:\/\/dimensiondolls.com\/colourless\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1781\/revisions\/1788"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dimensiondolls.com\/colourless\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1782"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/dimensiondolls.com\/colourless\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1781"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dimensiondolls.com\/colourless\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1781"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dimensiondolls.com\/colourless\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1781"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}